<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns:geo="http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/wgs84_pos#" xmlns:ymaps="http://api.maps.yahoo.com/Maps/V2/AnnotatedMaps.xsd"	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Replace meaningless metrics</title>
	<atom:link href="http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/replace-meaningless-metrics/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/replace-meaningless-metrics/</link>
	<description>Notes from the classroom and observations about professional practices for sharing the news on digital platforms.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 02:53:03 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Andy Perdue</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/replace-meaningless-metrics/comment-page-1/#comment-2394</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Perdue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 20:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/replace-meaningless-metrics/#comment-2394</guid>
		<description>Mindy,

You are correct that &quot;jumping&quot; online stories is a sneaky way to boost page views and ad inventory. I see it more on magazine sites than newspaper sites, though I&#039;m noticing it more there, too.

I guess that&#039;s why we&#039;ve been told to emphasize unique visitors. That, too, is less than satisfying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mindy,</p>
<p>You are correct that &#8220;jumping&#8221; online stories is a sneaky way to boost page views and ad inventory. I see it more on magazine sites than newspaper sites, though I&#8217;m noticing it more there, too.</p>
<p>I guess that&#8217;s why we&#8217;ve been told to emphasize unique visitors. That, too, is less than satisfying.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mindy</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/replace-meaningless-metrics/comment-page-1/#comment-2393</link>
		<dc:creator>Mindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/replace-meaningless-metrics/#comment-2393</guid>
		<description>Thanks for the Monty Python link, Andy.

My biggest complaint against page views remains the deliberate inflation of those numbers by means that actually make the visitor&#039;s experience LESS pleasant and less satisfying.

When I go to non-news Web sites, I don&#039;t have to click on five separate pages to finish reading something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the Monty Python link, Andy.</p>
<p>My biggest complaint against page views remains the deliberate inflation of those numbers by means that actually make the visitor&#8217;s experience LESS pleasant and less satisfying.</p>
<p>When I go to non-news Web sites, I don&#8217;t have to click on five separate pages to finish reading something.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Andy Perdue</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/replace-meaningless-metrics/comment-page-1/#comment-2388</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Perdue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/replace-meaningless-metrics/#comment-2388</guid>
		<description>Calling page views &quot;meaningless&quot; is a bit premature. Calling hits meaningless has been true for a long time. I often have a dozen or more Web sites open at once in various browsers (Firefox and Safari) on multiple computers. Sometimes I leave them open for days until I get back to look at them. This item, for example, was in a tab for a couple of days until I had time to get back. Yes, could have used del.icio.us but didn&#039;t.

So which stat is more meaningful:

-- Page views (properly counted to include real users and not bots) that guarantee an ad has been loaded (even though it might not be seen by the user).

-- Time spent on a site or page (even though that time is undoubtedly inflated at times because of multiple tabs open, an interrupting phone call, etc.)?

-- Unique visitors (which could be multiple users on one computer or one user on multiple computers/browsers)?

-- Total visits (which would seem to be accurate no matter what the other factors might be)?

Our newspaper company is emphasizing eyeballs at the moment, which means unique visitors. But we also just sold a whole lot of advertising based on page views/impressions. An entire industry is using page views. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuvB7j9n-II&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let&#039;s not be so quick to toss it out.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling page views &#8220;meaningless&#8221; is a bit premature. Calling hits meaningless has been true for a long time. I often have a dozen or more Web sites open at once in various browsers (Firefox and Safari) on multiple computers. Sometimes I leave them open for days until I get back to look at them. This item, for example, was in a tab for a couple of days until I had time to get back. Yes, could have used del.icio.us but didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>So which stat is more meaningful:</p>
<p>&#8211; Page views (properly counted to include real users and not bots) that guarantee an ad has been loaded (even though it might not be seen by the user).</p>
<p>&#8211; Time spent on a site or page (even though that time is undoubtedly inflated at times because of multiple tabs open, an interrupting phone call, etc.)?</p>
<p>&#8211; Unique visitors (which could be multiple users on one computer or one user on multiple computers/browsers)?</p>
<p>&#8211; Total visits (which would seem to be accurate no matter what the other factors might be)?</p>
<p>Our newspaper company is emphasizing eyeballs at the moment, which means unique visitors. But we also just sold a whole lot of advertising based on page views/impressions. An entire industry is using page views. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuvB7j9n-II" rel="nofollow">Let&#8217;s not be so quick to toss it out.</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mindy</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/replace-meaningless-metrics/comment-page-1/#comment-2372</link>
		<dc:creator>Mindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/replace-meaningless-metrics/#comment-2372</guid>
		<description>Hooray!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hooray!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mato Brautovic</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/replace-meaningless-metrics/comment-page-1/#comment-2371</link>
		<dc:creator>Mato Brautovic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 17:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/replace-meaningless-metrics/#comment-2371</guid>
		<description>Now is working fine. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now is working fine. Thanks.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mindy</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/replace-meaningless-metrics/comment-page-1/#comment-2370</link>
		<dc:creator>Mindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/replace-meaningless-metrics/#comment-2370</guid>
		<description>Maybe you should try http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/feed instead?

It is working fine in the major readers and also here:

http://www.macloo.com/journalism/

And here:

http://www.journalism.co.uk/bestofblogs.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you should try <a href="http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/feed" rel="nofollow">http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/feed</a> instead?</p>
<p>It is working fine in the major readers and also here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.macloo.com/journalism/" rel="nofollow">http://www.macloo.com/journalism/</a></p>
<p>And here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.journalism.co.uk/bestofblogs.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.journalism.co.uk/bestofblogs.php</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mato Brautovic</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/replace-meaningless-metrics/comment-page-1/#comment-2368</link>
		<dc:creator>Mato Brautovic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/replace-meaningless-metrics/#comment-2368</guid>
		<description>I reed RSS true RSS Reader and it&#039;s not working. URL I use is ok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reed RSS true RSS Reader and it&#8217;s not working. URL I use is ok.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Nielsen/netratings - length matters</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/replace-meaningless-metrics/comment-page-1/#comment-2366</link>
		<dc:creator>Nielsen/netratings - length matters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/replace-meaningless-metrics/#comment-2366</guid>
		<description>[...] the absurdity of this Nielsen this week announced that they were switching to &#8220;length of visit&#8221; as the most [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the absurdity of this Nielsen this week announced that they were switching to &#8220;length of visit&#8221; as the most [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mindy</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/replace-meaningless-metrics/comment-page-1/#comment-2360</link>
		<dc:creator>Mindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 06:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/replace-meaningless-metrics/#comment-2360</guid>
		<description>Mato, are you subscribed to http://feeds.feedburner.com/tojou ? It is working for me in Google Reader and in Bloglines. Check the URL you subscribed to!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mato, are you subscribed to <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/tojou" rel="nofollow">http://feeds.feedburner.com/tojou</a> ? It is working for me in Google Reader and in Bloglines. Check the URL you subscribed to!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mato Brautovic</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/replace-meaningless-metrics/comment-page-1/#comment-2359</link>
		<dc:creator>Mato Brautovic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/replace-meaningless-metrics/#comment-2359</guid>
		<description>Your RSS feed doesn&#039;t work since you changed your blog url. Please check what is wrong!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your RSS feed doesn&#8217;t work since you changed your blog url. Please check what is wrong!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

