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	<title>Comments on: Structure as a key to &#8230; everything?</title>
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	<description>Notes from the classroom and observations about professional practices for sharing the news on digital platforms.</description>
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		<title>By: Jason Osder</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/structure-as-a-key-to-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-5441</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Osder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mindy, 

This post resonates with me, as I spent some time between grad school and teaching practicing Information Architecture for marketing and government clients. 

These fields of communication were realizing the real power of interactivity – that websites are more than just pamphlets on the screen.

It does seem that journalism on the whole has been fairly slow to actualize this same insight – there are however bright spots. 

This is all apropos to the class we’ve been discussing that I am teaching in the Spring. We want to try to cover three ideas, all through practical application:

1.	Online journalism in context of media convergence, and the practice of information architecture 
2.	Reporting and producing multimedia news stories using Flash
3.	Distribution and syndication of content in a real media marketplace 
#1 speaks to the point of your post exactly. #2 is based on your book. #3 is going to be very very interesting, and worth further discussion. 

Thanks for the great resources, including this blog. I can see some really rich dialogue as we go down this road.

Best,

Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mindy, </p>
<p>This post resonates with me, as I spent some time between grad school and teaching practicing Information Architecture for marketing and government clients. </p>
<p>These fields of communication were realizing the real power of interactivity – that websites are more than just pamphlets on the screen.</p>
<p>It does seem that journalism on the whole has been fairly slow to actualize this same insight – there are however bright spots. </p>
<p>This is all apropos to the class we’ve been discussing that I am teaching in the Spring. We want to try to cover three ideas, all through practical application:</p>
<p>1.	Online journalism in context of media convergence, and the practice of information architecture<br />
2.	Reporting and producing multimedia news stories using Flash<br />
3.	Distribution and syndication of content in a real media marketplace<br />
#1 speaks to the point of your post exactly. #2 is based on your book. #3 is going to be very very interesting, and worth further discussion. </p>
<p>Thanks for the great resources, including this blog. I can see some really rich dialogue as we go down this road.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Jason</p>
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		<title>By: Mac Slocum</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/structure-as-a-key-to-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-5259</link>
		<dc:creator>Mac Slocum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silo-based content is a hard nut to crack because it was the only distribution method many of us ever knew. The Web&#039;s biggest challenge -- and its biggest asset -- is its the ability to separate content from its container and reorganize the material on the fly. That&#039;s a *huge* shift away from traditional story-slot concepts in print and broadcast. Prior to the Web, the thought of publishing one story in multiple areas was anathema because it wasted page space or broadcast time (and it sucked up valuable resources). But now, a simple tagging system can cause one story to show up in a variety of categories, and those categories can be cross referenced and manipulated in hundreds of ways. 

Those of us who deal with Web content on a day to day basis understand the Web&#039;s fluid nature, but I think it&#039;s going to be a while before more folks can understand taxonomies, folksonomies and other data structures. Of course, if a distinct return on investment can be connected to data structure, then the discovery process could accelerate dramatically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silo-based content is a hard nut to crack because it was the only distribution method many of us ever knew. The Web&#8217;s biggest challenge &#8212; and its biggest asset &#8212; is its the ability to separate content from its container and reorganize the material on the fly. That&#8217;s a *huge* shift away from traditional story-slot concepts in print and broadcast. Prior to the Web, the thought of publishing one story in multiple areas was anathema because it wasted page space or broadcast time (and it sucked up valuable resources). But now, a simple tagging system can cause one story to show up in a variety of categories, and those categories can be cross referenced and manipulated in hundreds of ways. </p>
<p>Those of us who deal with Web content on a day to day basis understand the Web&#8217;s fluid nature, but I think it&#8217;s going to be a while before more folks can understand taxonomies, folksonomies and other data structures. Of course, if a distinct return on investment can be connected to data structure, then the discovery process could accelerate dramatically.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Thornton</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/structure-as-a-key-to-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-5167</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat Thornton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mindy, I&#039;ve mentioned this several times on my blog, and I usually get a few responses from industry veterans about how my suggestions are impossible -- that the legacy systems just can&#039;t support my ideas of making everything into a database item, tagging everything and making it infinity searchable.

And I ask why? Why is this so? And it&#039;s quite simple really: Newspaper Web sites are still print first, Web second. When newspapers finally become Web first, they&#039;ll understand why tagging stories, photos, videos, etc is so important. 

But for now, we&#039;ll still be stuck with excuses. How it&#039;s just not &quot;possible.&quot; How is such a simple concept so daunting?

I think the answer is equally simple. It&#039;s going to take an epiphany by top editors and publishers that this is important. Newspapers could probably make a lot more money off of the same content if it were just easier to find. People don&#039;t thumb through Web sites. Not sure why editors think that people would.

A great example of a horribly hard to search Web site is my papers, and it kills our page views. We, and most newspapers, need more ways for people to find stories than we currently allow. 

If people at my paper don&#039;t get it with me working there and harping on all these things, I can only imagine other papers without people saying that they should try new things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mindy, I&#8217;ve mentioned this several times on my blog, and I usually get a few responses from industry veterans about how my suggestions are impossible &#8212; that the legacy systems just can&#8217;t support my ideas of making everything into a database item, tagging everything and making it infinity searchable.</p>
<p>And I ask why? Why is this so? And it&#8217;s quite simple really: Newspaper Web sites are still print first, Web second. When newspapers finally become Web first, they&#8217;ll understand why tagging stories, photos, videos, etc is so important. </p>
<p>But for now, we&#8217;ll still be stuck with excuses. How it&#8217;s just not &#8220;possible.&#8221; How is such a simple concept so daunting?</p>
<p>I think the answer is equally simple. It&#8217;s going to take an epiphany by top editors and publishers that this is important. Newspapers could probably make a lot more money off of the same content if it were just easier to find. People don&#8217;t thumb through Web sites. Not sure why editors think that people would.</p>
<p>A great example of a horribly hard to search Web site is my papers, and it kills our page views. We, and most newspapers, need more ways for people to find stories than we currently allow. </p>
<p>If people at my paper don&#8217;t get it with me working there and harping on all these things, I can only imagine other papers without people saying that they should try new things.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr John Cokley</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/structure-as-a-key-to-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-5159</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr John Cokley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mindy -- a very interesting post, especially since i am now discovering geotagging ... which seems to be well developed on your side of our mutual ocean but not here. how widespread is geotagging among online journalists, in your experiences?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mindy &#8212; a very interesting post, especially since i am now discovering geotagging &#8230; which seems to be well developed on your side of our mutual ocean but not here. how widespread is geotagging among online journalists, in your experiences?</p>
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