Comments on: There is no shelf. (There is no Page One.) http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/there-is-no-shelf-there-is-no-page-one/ Notes from the classroom and observations about today's practice of journalism online Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:32:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Worth repeating : the x degree: exploring and redefining multimedia storytelling http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/there-is-no-shelf-there-is-no-page-one/comment-page-1/#comment-4833 Worth repeating : the x degree: exploring and redefining multimedia storytelling Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:54:43 +0000 http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/there-is-no-shelf-there-is-no-page-one/#comment-4833 [...] Busy week, so until I can post again, I thought I’d share this video that saw on Mindy McAdams’ blog (where she compared “the shelf” to “Page One”): [...] [...] Busy week, so until I can post again, I thought I’d share this video that saw on Mindy McAdams’ blog (where she compared “the shelf” to “Page One”): [...]

]]> By: Mike Wendling http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/there-is-no-shelf-there-is-no-page-one/comment-page-1/#comment-4789 Mike Wendling Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:14:36 +0000 http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/there-is-no-shelf-there-is-no-page-one/#comment-4789 Very clever, very well done. But maybe also a bit fuzzy on the logic? Google may not have categories as such but still relies on keywords. And finding information may be quicker, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's any easier. The statistics about the sheer amount of information on the internet are impressive, but what that doesn't tell us is how interesting or accurate all of those millions of words are. The thing is - there's still a role for experts in the new digital age (and you can read 'journalists' for 'experts' here). It's not that experts/journalists are irrelvant (as some of the most enthusiastic converts seem to argue)- it's that we need to radically rethink, what they do, how they do it and - at a very basic level - who they are. Very clever, very well done. But maybe also a bit fuzzy on the logic? Google may not have categories as such but still relies on keywords. And finding information may be quicker, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s any easier. The statistics about the sheer amount of information on the internet are impressive, but what that doesn’t tell us is how interesting or accurate all of those millions of words are.
The thing is – there’s still a role for experts in the new digital age (and you can read ‘journalists’ for ‘experts’ here). It’s not that experts/journalists are irrelvant (as some of the most enthusiastic converts seem to argue)- it’s that we need to radically rethink, what they do, how they do it and – at a very basic level – who they are.

]]> By: Mindy http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/there-is-no-shelf-there-is-no-page-one/comment-page-1/#comment-4777 Mindy Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:44:27 +0000 http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/there-is-no-shelf-there-is-no-page-one/#comment-4777 Nice links, Tony! Thanks! I agree, the music does not bother me. It helps knit everything together. Punctuates. Greases the skids. (How's that for a disparate bunch o' metaphors?) Nice links, Tony! Thanks!

I agree, the music does not bother me. It helps knit everything together. Punctuates. Greases the skids. (How’s that for a disparate bunch o’ metaphors?)

]]> By: Tony Nino http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/there-is-no-shelf-there-is-no-page-one/comment-page-1/#comment-4774 Tony Nino Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:44:20 +0000 http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/there-is-no-shelf-there-is-no-page-one/#comment-4774 Yes http://www.shirky.com/writings/ontology_overrated.html And yes indeed http://www.futureofthebook.org/blog/archives/2005/04/the_only_group_that_can_organi.html Oh, and Ikm: Who cares if the music was Apple Soundtrack loops or a sample of Tubular Bells? That "thoughtless" heartbeat helped bring that concept to life. Bravo. Yes http://www.shirky.com/writings/ontology_overrated.html
And yes indeed
http://www.futureofthebook.org/blog/archives/2005/04/the_only_group_that_can_organi.html
Oh, and Ikm:
Who cares if the music was Apple Soundtrack loops or a sample of Tubular Bells? That “thoughtless” heartbeat helped bring that concept to life.
Bravo.

]]> By: Mindy http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/there-is-no-shelf-there-is-no-page-one/comment-page-1/#comment-4736 Mindy Sat, 27 Oct 2007 03:14:15 +0000 http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/there-is-no-shelf-there-is-no-page-one/#comment-4736 Wesch's blog: <a href="http://mediatedcultures.net/ksudigg/" rel="nofollow">Digital Ethnography</a> The blog post Nick referred to: <a href="http://www.publicradio.org/columns/futuretense/2007/10/25.shtml" rel="nofollow">The Machine Is Using Us</a> Wesch’s blog: Digital Ethnography

The blog post Nick referred to: The Machine Is Using Us

]]> By: Nick http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/there-is-no-shelf-there-is-no-page-one/comment-page-1/#comment-4732 Nick Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:03:06 +0000 http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/there-is-no-shelf-there-is-no-page-one/#comment-4732 Another one of Michael Wesch's videos. Heard about him last night on Future Tense on NPR. Here's a <a href="http://www.publicradio.org/columns/futuretense/" rel="nofollow">blog entry</a> from that show with link to his Web site. Cool stuff! Another one of Michael Wesch’s videos. Heard about him last night on Future Tense on NPR. Here’s a blog entry from that show with link to his Web site. Cool stuff!

]]> By: lkm http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/there-is-no-shelf-there-is-no-page-one/comment-page-1/#comment-4728 lkm Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:41:41 +0000 http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/there-is-no-shelf-there-is-no-page-one/#comment-4728 Very creative. Great thoughts. Pity the audio was so thoughtless (I was surprised to see "song" credits; I figured it was a set of Apple Soundtrack loops)... Very creative. Great thoughts.

Pity the audio was so thoughtless (I was surprised to see “song” credits; I figured it was a set of Apple Soundtrack loops)…

]]> By: Notes from a Teacher: Mark on Media » Friday squibs http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/there-is-no-shelf-there-is-no-page-one/comment-page-1/#comment-4718 Notes from a Teacher: Mark on Media » Friday squibs Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:15:29 +0000 http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2007/there-is-no-shelf-there-is-no-page-one/#comment-4718 [...] There is no shelf. (There is no Page One.) Mindy McAdams “loves this video.” So do I. [...] [...] There is no shelf. (There is no Page One.) Mindy McAdams “loves this video.” So do I. [...]

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