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		<title>By: ans</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2008/journalism-students-blogging-assignment/comment-page-1/#comment-11729</link>
		<dc:creator>ans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an almost-graduated j-student at UT, just wanted to say a big thanks for using Wordpress.com.  I had two classes in which we were walked through how to set up a blog and write an entry - at Blogger.com.  I suggested to both my profs that we use Wordpress.com instead (noting that no major newspaper uses Blogger and a bunch use WP), but they wouldn&#039;t hear it.  Frustrating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an almost-graduated j-student at UT, just wanted to say a big thanks for using WordPress.com.  I had two classes in which we were walked through how to set up a blog and write an entry &#8211; at Blogger.com.  I suggested to both my profs that we use WordPress.com instead (noting that no major newspaper uses Blogger and a bunch use WP), but they wouldn&#8217;t hear it.  Frustrating.</p>
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		<title>By: Mindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rebecca - I agree with you, our students need to develop a Web portfolio -- and they need to be accountable by using their full names. Perhaps your chair is unaware of how much personal information most 20-year-olds have already shared all over the Internet -- in many cases, too much. 

However, I did tell them in 2006 that they could create a pseudonym for their blog, if they wanted to, because anonymity is a free speech right in the United States. This would allow students to write about sensitive issues that maybe they would not want everyone to associate with their name. 

Of course, I told them, I and the other students in the course would know who they are! So it would not be pure anonymity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rebecca &#8211; I agree with you, our students need to develop a Web portfolio &#8212; and they need to be accountable by using their full names. Perhaps your chair is unaware of how much personal information most 20-year-olds have already shared all over the Internet &#8212; in many cases, too much. </p>
<p>However, I did tell them in 2006 that they could create a pseudonym for their blog, if they wanted to, because anonymity is a free speech right in the United States. This would allow students to write about sensitive issues that maybe they would not want everyone to associate with their name. </p>
<p>Of course, I told them, I and the other students in the course would know who they are! So it would not be pure anonymity.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Coates-Nee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca Coates-Nee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great guidelines Mindy. I&#039;ve been using this assignment for a year in my public affairs reporting class (where they blog about their beat) and an online journalism class (where they can choose the topic). The blogs are great for the public affairs reporting because their work is actually being PUBLISHED somewhere, so the sources tend to take the students more seriously. One question - my dept. chair has privacy concerns. She doesn&#039;t want the students to post much identifying information since we are a public university. But I believe our students need to develop a Web portfolio - and the only way to do that is to use their full names. How many restrictions (if any) do you put on them? Do you leave it up to them whether to use their full name, post photos or other details about themselves? Is this a concern at most universities?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great guidelines Mindy. I&#8217;ve been using this assignment for a year in my public affairs reporting class (where they blog about their beat) and an online journalism class (where they can choose the topic). The blogs are great for the public affairs reporting because their work is actually being PUBLISHED somewhere, so the sources tend to take the students more seriously. One question &#8211; my dept. chair has privacy concerns. She doesn&#8217;t want the students to post much identifying information since we are a public university. But I believe our students need to develop a Web portfolio &#8211; and the only way to do that is to use their full names. How many restrictions (if any) do you put on them? Do you leave it up to them whether to use their full name, post photos or other details about themselves? Is this a concern at most universities?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to qualify this by saying that I am in no way a journalism expert; but I have been blogging for several years. This sounds like a great idea for an assignment, but I have a concern about marking for audience/marketing efforts, and that is the potential that you are rewarding students for liking what other people like.

As one commenter already noted, blogs where the blogger is passionate about their subject will be better; but an audience won&#039;t necessarily reflect that in some easily linear fashion. You have one student who is obsessed with trendy clothes, where there is a large potential audience and s/he quickly gets external readers and comments and an impressive sitemeter graph. You have another student who is passionate about the mating habits of an endangered tropical tree frog, where the potential audience is small. You probably don&#039;t want to give the first student higher marks; but how do you distinguish between a good blog written for a huge market and a great blog written for a small market?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to qualify this by saying that I am in no way a journalism expert; but I have been blogging for several years. This sounds like a great idea for an assignment, but I have a concern about marking for audience/marketing efforts, and that is the potential that you are rewarding students for liking what other people like.</p>
<p>As one commenter already noted, blogs where the blogger is passionate about their subject will be better; but an audience won&#8217;t necessarily reflect that in some easily linear fashion. You have one student who is obsessed with trendy clothes, where there is a large potential audience and s/he quickly gets external readers and comments and an impressive sitemeter graph. You have another student who is passionate about the mating habits of an endangered tropical tree frog, where the potential audience is small. You probably don&#8217;t want to give the first student higher marks; but how do you distinguish between a good blog written for a huge market and a great blog written for a small market?</p>
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		<title>By: Mindy</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2008/journalism-students-blogging-assignment/comment-page-1/#comment-11702</link>
		<dc:creator>Mindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Greg - now we&#039;re getting somewhere. I think perhaps they could e-mail me links to their comments on other blogs (not just fellow students) and their Site Meter graph. A weekly report on what they did to promote their blog. Yeah, that would make sense! Thank you! 

So, first half -- writing the posts. Second half -- gaining traction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Greg &#8211; now we&#8217;re getting somewhere. I think perhaps they could e-mail me links to their comments on other blogs (not just fellow students) and their Site Meter graph. A weekly report on what they did to promote their blog. Yeah, that would make sense! Thank you! </p>
<p>So, first half &#8212; writing the posts. Second half &#8212; gaining traction.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Linch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Linch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Rob brings up a very good point regarding marketing and developing the audience. I was in an online journalism class at the University of Miami in spring 2008 and it seems like no one else did anything to promote their blogs -- they basically wrote for the professor and their classmates. 

(Brief background: I started my blog on my own a few months earlier and came into the class with a small audience.)

I don&#039;t know whether you should grade the results of any marketing and audience development work, but I think grading effort would be a very good way to evaluate the students. For example, did they post their links on appropriate outside sites such as Facebook, related Web sites/forums and in comments on other blogs? 

Or, another option, grade for effort during the first half of the semester and grade of effort and results the second half.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Rob brings up a very good point regarding marketing and developing the audience. I was in an online journalism class at the University of Miami in spring 2008 and it seems like no one else did anything to promote their blogs &#8212; they basically wrote for the professor and their classmates. </p>
<p>(Brief background: I started my blog on my own a few months earlier and came into the class with a small audience.)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether you should grade the results of any marketing and audience development work, but I think grading effort would be a very good way to evaluate the students. For example, did they post their links on appropriate outside sites such as Facebook, related Web sites/forums and in comments on other blogs? </p>
<p>Or, another option, grade for effort during the first half of the semester and grade of effort and results the second half.</p>
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		<title>By: Sinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 03:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m revamping the online publishing course at Columbia College and am trying to crack this same nut, with a similar over-arching blogging project as well.

Absolutely, commenting is an important skill to reinforce. For my students, I&#039;m thinking about requiring them to comment on at least three (maybe more??) of their classmates blogs over the course of the week. These comments would just be graded on a check, check-plus, check-minus scale--essentially something that will feed into an overall participation grade. But it gets them into the routine and the practice of commenting.

In order to make the whole thing easier for grading, but also for their own tracking, I&#039;m going to be building a feed-based &quot;metablog&quot;  that will collect all their various posts into one stream (thank you Yahoo Pipes) for the class site, even though their blogs will also maintain separate identities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m revamping the online publishing course at Columbia College and am trying to crack this same nut, with a similar over-arching blogging project as well.</p>
<p>Absolutely, commenting is an important skill to reinforce. For my students, I&#8217;m thinking about requiring them to comment on at least three (maybe more??) of their classmates blogs over the course of the week. These comments would just be graded on a check, check-plus, check-minus scale&#8211;essentially something that will feed into an overall participation grade. But it gets them into the routine and the practice of commenting.</p>
<p>In order to make the whole thing easier for grading, but also for their own tracking, I&#8217;m going to be building a feed-based &#8220;metablog&#8221;  that will collect all their various posts into one stream (thank you Yahoo Pipes) for the class site, even though their blogs will also maintain separate identities.</p>
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		<title>By: Mindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Angie - I like that idea. It could be for extra credit, or maybe each worthwhile comment would be counted as a quarter-point, up to a total of 5 points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Angie &#8211; I like that idea. It could be for extra credit, or maybe each worthwhile comment would be counted as a quarter-point, up to a total of 5 points.</p>
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		<dc:creator>SOME TEACHING IDEAS &#171; AngelesHernandez- CALL and ICT Language Learning: theoretical backup and class use</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] written by a University teacher, Mindy Mc Adams, on Teaching On line Journalism. Her last post, Journalism students’ blogging assignment is really inspiring for the EFL class. She has prepared an assignment for her students which [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Renee Barnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renee Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I teach online journalism at RMIT in Melbourne, Australia and have included a semester long blogging assignment now for the past two semesters - I think I actually got the original idea from you!

To encourage commentary I spend(as some others may have suggested) a class on establishing the importance of the &#039;circular conversation&#039; in blogging and how this is important for journalism. In the tutorial groups (I have about 15 students per class so this works well) we establish a blogroll of other students in class - then I explain the idea of the pingback.

Then at least one of the 20 posts required for the semester assignment must be in response to what one of their peers has written and they use a pingback so that it appears on the other&#039;s comment section. I stress that the response must add to the issue or debate that is originally discussed. All my students are blogging on media analysis and issues so this works well.

I also have all students install sitemeter and require that one of the final posts is an analysis of their sitemeter reports. I find this helps get everyone reading each other&#039;s blogs as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I teach online journalism at RMIT in Melbourne, Australia and have included a semester long blogging assignment now for the past two semesters &#8211; I think I actually got the original idea from you!</p>
<p>To encourage commentary I spend(as some others may have suggested) a class on establishing the importance of the &#8216;circular conversation&#8217; in blogging and how this is important for journalism. In the tutorial groups (I have about 15 students per class so this works well) we establish a blogroll of other students in class &#8211; then I explain the idea of the pingback.</p>
<p>Then at least one of the 20 posts required for the semester assignment must be in response to what one of their peers has written and they use a pingback so that it appears on the other&#8217;s comment section. I stress that the response must add to the issue or debate that is originally discussed. All my students are blogging on media analysis and issues so this works well.</p>
<p>I also have all students install sitemeter and require that one of the final posts is an analysis of their sitemeter reports. I find this helps get everyone reading each other&#8217;s blogs as well.</p>
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