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	<title>Comments on: Students find j-schools lacking</title>
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		<title>By: Katharine Lackey</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2008/students-find-j-schools-lacking/comment-page-1/#comment-12076</link>
		<dc:creator>Katharine Lackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m an out of state student so tuition and fees  per semester is $13,073 for 2008-2009 for a lovely total of $26,146. Multiply that by four years and you get over $100,000. When I started here four years ago, tuition and fees were probably closer to $22,000 a year. This of course does not take into account living expenses -- cost of an off-campus apartment and food.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an out of state student so tuition and fees  per semester is $13,073 for 2008-2009 for a lovely total of $26,146. Multiply that by four years and you get over $100,000. When I started here four years ago, tuition and fees were probably closer to $22,000 a year. This of course does not take into account living expenses &#8212; cost of an off-campus apartment and food.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2008/students-find-j-schools-lacking/comment-page-1/#comment-12071</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree that a person who is savvy about online journalism should know how to edit and stream audio and video.  But you can learn this stuff by taking 4 - 5 $500 evening classes.  You don&#039;t need to spend $100,000.

Also, who in the world spends $100,000 to get a degree other than an MD or JD?  An MS in journalism at NYU or Columbia certainly doesn&#039;t cost that much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree that a person who is savvy about online journalism should know how to edit and stream audio and video.  But you can learn this stuff by taking 4 &#8211; 5 $500 evening classes.  You don&#8217;t need to spend $100,000.</p>
<p>Also, who in the world spends $100,000 to get a degree other than an MD or JD?  An MS in journalism at NYU or Columbia certainly doesn&#8217;t cost that much.</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2008/students-find-j-schools-lacking/comment-page-1/#comment-12063</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@katharine - are you referring to the principles underlying the tasks, or just which buttons to push to get a particular result?

If the former then yes by all means take classes in  (eg) audio production. Learn how to read a waveform monitor, learn how to use EQ to improve dialogue,how to apply compression etc. But you  you are in a minority. 

If (like the vast majority) you just want to learn which keys to press to convert your photos into a slideshow and add a VO track - there is no point in trying to memorize those details - the recommended methodology changes every few months. 

You are wanting a map to a city that is just now beginning to take shape - no such thing exists - break out the sextant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@katharine &#8211; are you referring to the principles underlying the tasks, or just which buttons to push to get a particular result?</p>
<p>If the former then yes by all means take classes in  (eg) audio production. Learn how to read a waveform monitor, learn how to use EQ to improve dialogue,how to apply compression etc. But you  you are in a minority. </p>
<p>If (like the vast majority) you just want to learn which keys to press to convert your photos into a slideshow and add a VO track &#8211; there is no point in trying to memorize those details &#8211; the recommended methodology changes every few months. </p>
<p>You are wanting a map to a city that is just now beginning to take shape &#8211; no such thing exists &#8211; break out the sextant.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen Mrja</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2008/students-find-j-schools-lacking/comment-page-1/#comment-12048</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen Mrja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 01:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I can&#039;t tell you how much I have learned on this blogsite, Mindy. Thank you for keeping this going for your faithful readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I can&#8217;t tell you how much I have learned on this blogsite, Mindy. Thank you for keeping this going for your faithful readers.</p>
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		<title>By: Katharine Lackey</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2008/students-find-j-schools-lacking/comment-page-1/#comment-12043</link>
		<dc:creator>Katharine Lackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will agree that you have to be your own advocate in learning these types of technologies, but if a degree in journalism is a requirement for most entry-level jobs in the field, shouldn&#039;t I be learning the skills necessary in class?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will agree that you have to be your own advocate in learning these types of technologies, but if a degree in journalism is a requirement for most entry-level jobs in the field, shouldn&#8217;t I be learning the skills necessary in class?</p>
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		<title>By: Nachrichtenfluss &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Webfähigkeiten sind eine Holschuld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nachrichtenfluss &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Webfähigkeiten sind eine Holschuld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/?p=1269#comment-12041</guid>
		<description>[...] Mindy McAdams, eine meiner liebsten Medienblogger, bingt es immer wieder auf den Bildschirm. Den jungen Journalisten fehlt es an Web-Fähigkeiten. Sie erkennt vor allem bei amerikanischen Journalismus-Schulen großen Aufholbedarf in Sachen Internet. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mindy McAdams, eine meiner liebsten Medienblogger, bingt es immer wieder auf den Bildschirm. Den jungen Journalisten fehlt es an Web-Fähigkeiten. Sie erkennt vor allem bei amerikanischen Journalismus-Schulen großen Aufholbedarf in Sachen Internet. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Mulvany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Mulvany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter is right. Train yourself. Unless the curriculum is cutting edge, you&#039;re wasting your money. You don&#039;t need to spend a 100 grand to learn multimedia. For working journalists that feel cheated by their college education, a couple of workshops and a good mentor will set you on the right path. Man, I&#039;d hate to see that student&#039;s first loan payment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter is right. Train yourself. Unless the curriculum is cutting edge, you&#8217;re wasting your money. You don&#8217;t need to spend a 100 grand to learn multimedia. For working journalists that feel cheated by their college education, a couple of workshops and a good mentor will set you on the right path. Man, I&#8217;d hate to see that student&#8217;s first loan payment.</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a subscription Lynda online is $25 a month.

If you can&#039;t learn:

how to edit audio, edit video, stream live video, use Flash, use Soundslides and more.

in a couple of months - then face facts hundreds of thousands can and have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a subscription Lynda online is $25 a month.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t learn:</p>
<p>how to edit audio, edit video, stream live video, use Flash, use Soundslides and more.</p>
<p>in a couple of months &#8211; then face facts hundreds of thousands can and have.</p>
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