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	<description>Notes from the classroom and observations about today's practice of journalism online</description>
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		<title>By: Ken Carpenter</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2008/the-survival-of-journalism/#comment-11881</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Carpenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll just focus on No. 2.

Newspapers are not expensive to produce. In fact, even with the cost of people, newsprint, delivery fuel, etc., etc., the per-paper cost is still relatively small. I'm going to guess that circulation revenue comes close to covering the nut. Well managed operations can still make a vast piles of money.

I believe the underlying problem is that each new generation in the United States READS less then the previous one. Not just newspapers, but magazines, books -- yes, even Internet pages. More and more people USE the Internet, sure, but most people don't READ on the Internet.

We are raising generations of observers who want to be entertained by the mass media, not informed by it. They want to WATCH non-sensical content like "American Idol" and most of what passes for programming on YouTube.

READING requires effort. People in the U.S. just don't want to be bothered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll just focus on No. 2.</p>
<p>Newspapers are not expensive to produce. In fact, even with the cost of people, newsprint, delivery fuel, etc., etc., the per-paper cost is still relatively small. I&#8217;m going to guess that circulation revenue comes close to covering the nut. Well managed operations can still make a vast piles of money.</p>
<p>I believe the underlying problem is that each new generation in the United States READS less then the previous one. Not just newspapers, but magazines, books &#8212; yes, even Internet pages. More and more people USE the Internet, sure, but most people don&#8217;t READ on the Internet.</p>
<p>We are raising generations of observers who want to be entertained by the mass media, not informed by it. They want to WATCH non-sensical content like &#8220;American Idol&#8221; and most of what passes for programming on YouTube.</p>
<p>READING requires effort. People in the U.S. just don&#8217;t want to be bothered.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Deuze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Deuze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As always, great post and discussion, Mindy! With apologies for the plug, but something that is mentioned in this debate is crucial and its what I tried to explore in the research for my Media Work book: all media professions and practitioners are dealing with the same issues. 

Of course it is easy to agree on the necessity of moving "beyond", that is: beyond ways of thinking that reify the existing ways of doing things, that function to solidify entrenched loyalties to routines and practices that served traditional models and relationships (between owners, editors, reporters, sources, advertisers and audiences) so well.

And yes, the key to the "new" mixed media ecology  is starting from the basic premise that all those roles and players are still here, but that they are converging, mixing, becoming more fluid or liquid. 

That also means that new business models cannot be premised on a notion of structural stability. We need to embrace liquidity as the foundation for moving beyond.

That said, we cannot forget that all these news and media companies to a large extent are not just governed by journalists or owners or advertisers, but also by investors and stockholders - and THAT is a system that seems particularly locked into a 19th century industrial-capitalist way of thinking (with a fixation on growth and increasing R-O-I). 

I am not anti-capitalism, but as someone smarter than me said to me recently: why are we never critically discussing the underlying issue determining most of our concerns about the survival of quality and creativity in media work: capitalism (more specifically: its dark side).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, great post and discussion, Mindy! With apologies for the plug, but something that is mentioned in this debate is crucial and its what I tried to explore in the research for my Media Work book: all media professions and practitioners are dealing with the same issues. </p>
<p>Of course it is easy to agree on the necessity of moving &#8220;beyond&#8221;, that is: beyond ways of thinking that reify the existing ways of doing things, that function to solidify entrenched loyalties to routines and practices that served traditional models and relationships (between owners, editors, reporters, sources, advertisers and audiences) so well.</p>
<p>And yes, the key to the &#8220;new&#8221; mixed media ecology  is starting from the basic premise that all those roles and players are still here, but that they are converging, mixing, becoming more fluid or liquid. </p>
<p>That also means that new business models cannot be premised on a notion of structural stability. We need to embrace liquidity as the foundation for moving beyond.</p>
<p>That said, we cannot forget that all these news and media companies to a large extent are not just governed by journalists or owners or advertisers, but also by investors and stockholders - and THAT is a system that seems particularly locked into a 19th century industrial-capitalist way of thinking (with a fixation on growth and increasing R-O-I). </p>
<p>I am not anti-capitalism, but as someone smarter than me said to me recently: why are we never critically discussing the underlying issue determining most of our concerns about the survival of quality and creativity in media work: capitalism (more specifically: its dark side).</p>
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		<title>By: Mindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's a kind of snake-biting-its-tail aspect to the online advertising conundrum.

People come into the news site from all kinds of directions -- Google searches, blog links, RSS feeds. They land on any one of thousands of pages. They stay on a page for (average) less than a minute. Then they move on.

Which people will land on which pages? Hard to say.

Who will see your ad? Very, very hard to say. 

Yet lots of people are landing on those newspaper Web site pages. Lots of eyeballs. The numbers are there, but in the aggregate. Single-copy numbers are blown to smithereens. 

So if Company X could buy a space on every single page of a news Web site -- woot, what a lot of eyeballs that would be! 

But that ad would have to cost about $1 million to support all the work that produced all those pages. 

The Long Tail is working against the advertising business model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a kind of snake-biting-its-tail aspect to the online advertising conundrum.</p>
<p>People come into the news site from all kinds of directions &#8212; Google searches, blog links, RSS feeds. They land on any one of thousands of pages. They stay on a page for (average) less than a minute. Then they move on.</p>
<p>Which people will land on which pages? Hard to say.</p>
<p>Who will see your ad? Very, very hard to say. </p>
<p>Yet lots of people are landing on those newspaper Web site pages. Lots of eyeballs. The numbers are there, but in the aggregate. Single-copy numbers are blown to smithereens. </p>
<p>So if Company X could buy a space on every single page of a news Web site &#8212; woot, what a lot of eyeballs that would be! </p>
<p>But that ad would have to cost about $1 million to support all the work that produced all those pages. </p>
<p>The Long Tail is working against the advertising business model.</p>
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		<title>By: Liza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this list, but I disagree with # 9. I *do* think the business model for 21st century journalism has been seen. It's advertising.

What hasn't been seen yet is whether *traditional* news organizations (ie: newspapers) can figure out how to a) draw enough readers to their sites in order to earn ad revenue, and b) structure their newsrooms so they have the right number of staff (and the right skill sets) to deliver online news.

There are non-traditional news organizations that are doing just fine financially. Talking Points Memo is one example.

The reason why newspapers think online advertising isn't a sufficient business model to support journalism is because they're asking the wrong question. They're asking: "How can we make enough money to fund the way we used to operate in the past?"

Instead, they should be asking: "What do we need to do to attract and retain readers online?" and "How should we structure our organizations in order to deliver news in the ways that attracts and retains readers?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this list, but I disagree with # 9. I *do* think the business model for 21st century journalism has been seen. It&#8217;s advertising.</p>
<p>What hasn&#8217;t been seen yet is whether *traditional* news organizations (ie: newspapers) can figure out how to a) draw enough readers to their sites in order to earn ad revenue, and b) structure their newsrooms so they have the right number of staff (and the right skill sets) to deliver online news.</p>
<p>There are non-traditional news organizations that are doing just fine financially. Talking Points Memo is one example.</p>
<p>The reason why newspapers think online advertising isn&#8217;t a sufficient business model to support journalism is because they&#8217;re asking the wrong question. They&#8217;re asking: &#8220;How can we make enough money to fund the way we used to operate in the past?&#8221;</p>
<p>Instead, they should be asking: &#8220;What do we need to do to attract and retain readers online?&#8221; and &#8220;How should we structure our organizations in order to deliver news in the ways that attracts and retains readers?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: oliloli</title>
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		<dc:creator>oliloli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW: How such a brilliant journalist from BBC could be trapped and blinded by his traditional practices?
Is journalism not about learning from life and events?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW: How such a brilliant journalist from BBC could be trapped and blinded by his traditional practices?<br />
Is journalism not about learning from life and events?</p>
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		<title>By: oliloli</title>
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		<dc:creator>oliloli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am still surprised.
the list is accurate and the observation reveals truth but again. Press is one media, Web is another one.
The market share regarding users, readers or customers is progressing in some ways and journalists must adapt.
As far as we can consider as the whole media situation and competition, then the observation will became more accurate by practicing a different journalism according to the media differences.
Yes you can write or express news in similar ways as the actual newspapers do it online BUT then you might kill your previous business.
a media needs its own authorships'ways, and journalism practices.
NYTimes Online or Le Monde has to be different from their primary paper version cause it's a different medium, with it's specific form and ways to interact with its readership.
As far as each news editors will finally understood it then finally solutions will come up by itself, nourishing or not from one media to the other one and reverse. 
The readership has increased, learnt better an  more, and deal with a more complete understanding of information, news and communication.
KEEP THE MEDIA DIMENSIONS AND CONSTRAINS OR FEATURES IN MIND and the whole picture or the future of journalism will became bright and more accessible but it needs some fine tunes to be adapted. Press, TV, Online desktop or mobile, so much to share and in a different ways. It is obvious but it needs to be taught and learned.
SO EASY TO CATCH ATTENTION WITH SUCH HEADLINE, AND MISSING THE KEY POINT: 
the media differences :)
so don't worry, don't cry, there are just now new ways of making journalism</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still surprised.<br />
the list is accurate and the observation reveals truth but again. Press is one media, Web is another one.<br />
The market share regarding users, readers or customers is progressing in some ways and journalists must adapt.<br />
As far as we can consider as the whole media situation and competition, then the observation will became more accurate by practicing a different journalism according to the media differences.<br />
Yes you can write or express news in similar ways as the actual newspapers do it online BUT then you might kill your previous business.<br />
a media needs its own authorships&#8217;ways, and journalism practices.<br />
NYTimes Online or Le Monde has to be different from their primary paper version cause it&#8217;s a different medium, with it&#8217;s specific form and ways to interact with its readership.<br />
As far as each news editors will finally understood it then finally solutions will come up by itself, nourishing or not from one media to the other one and reverse.<br />
The readership has increased, learnt better an  more, and deal with a more complete understanding of information, news and communication.<br />
KEEP THE MEDIA DIMENSIONS AND CONSTRAINS OR FEATURES IN MIND and the whole picture or the future of journalism will became bright and more accessible but it needs some fine tunes to be adapted. Press, TV, Online desktop or mobile, so much to share and in a different ways. It is obvious but it needs to be taught and learned.<br />
SO EASY TO CATCH ATTENTION WITH SUCH HEADLINE, AND MISSING THE KEY POINT:<br />
the media differences <img src='http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
so don&#8217;t worry, don&#8217;t cry, there are just now new ways of making journalism</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-07-31 &#124; Nofi dot org</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2008-07-31 &#124; Nofi dot org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>AgenciaBlog &#187; Archivo del weblog &#187; 10 consideraciones sobre la muerte de los diarios</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: tony metcalf</title>
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		<dc:creator>tony metcalf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless you know the insides of the newspaper business it is difficult to understand why newspaper are unable to respond to fierce competition. Most have been monoplies in their territory, and owners expected, and got, margins of up to 30 percent of income. That is money that was not re-invested in the newspaper monoply that created it. The result is that the papers were severely weakened before the internet came to town. Now the internet is challenging products weakened by decades of unbridled greed on the part of owners. For the most part the chains used the money to buy more papers and did the same to them. There are a few large newspapers that are prospering--as in Little Rock where staffs are increasing, local, national and international news holes are larger than ever, and THE PAPER SELLS ITS NEWS, and does not give it away to its competitors. Imagine another company spending millions on staff and equipment that give for free its product to a direct competitor in its own town, or even weirder, directly gives away the product to its own potential and current customers. That's the plan, born in stupidity and arrogance, that the top newspaper brass has come up with. Then they reward themselves with huge salaries while firing their staffs and bemoaning the "economy."  As usual Shakespeare knew the situation when he wrote: "the fault dear Brutus is not in your stars but in ourselves." It's an insight that newspaper managers will never acknowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless you know the insides of the newspaper business it is difficult to understand why newspaper are unable to respond to fierce competition. Most have been monoplies in their territory, and owners expected, and got, margins of up to 30 percent of income. That is money that was not re-invested in the newspaper monoply that created it. The result is that the papers were severely weakened before the internet came to town. Now the internet is challenging products weakened by decades of unbridled greed on the part of owners. For the most part the chains used the money to buy more papers and did the same to them. There are a few large newspapers that are prospering&#8211;as in Little Rock where staffs are increasing, local, national and international news holes are larger than ever, and THE PAPER SELLS ITS NEWS, and does not give it away to its competitors. Imagine another company spending millions on staff and equipment that give for free its product to a direct competitor in its own town, or even weirder, directly gives away the product to its own potential and current customers. That&#8217;s the plan, born in stupidity and arrogance, that the top newspaper brass has come up with. Then they reward themselves with huge salaries while firing their staffs and bemoaning the &#8220;economy.&#8221;  As usual Shakespeare knew the situation when he wrote: &#8220;the fault dear Brutus is not in your stars but in ourselves.&#8221; It&#8217;s an insight that newspaper managers will never acknowledge.</p>
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