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		<title>By: Medial Digital&#187; Neu RGMP Multimedia Tutorial &#187; Serie Multimedia-Tutorial RGMP (11): Eine gute Geschichte in Bild und Ton erzählen</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2009/feedback-sought-on-rgmp/comment-page-1/#comment-20494</link>
		<dc:creator>Medial Digital&#187; Neu RGMP Multimedia Tutorial &#187; Serie Multimedia-Tutorial RGMP (11): Eine gute Geschichte in Bild und Ton erzählen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fadely vom Miami Herald hatte Recht, als er in seinem Kommentar  zur zehnten (Original-)Folge RGMP schrieb: Ziel sollte es sein, visuell orientierte Geschichten zu [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Fadely vom Miami Herald hatte Recht, als er in seinem Kommentar  zur zehnten (Original-)Folge RGMP schrieb: Ziel sollte es sein, visuell orientierte Geschichten zu [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2009/feedback-sought-on-rgmp/comment-page-1/#comment-18027</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RGMP is incredibly useful--especially for a soon to be J school grad. I find the examples and details to be very helpful, and the links are great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RGMP is incredibly useful&#8211;especially for a soon to be J school grad. I find the examples and details to be very helpful, and the links are great!</p>
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		<title>By: How should journalism schools adapt? &#171; News Atoms</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2009/feedback-sought-on-rgmp/comment-page-1/#comment-14592</link>
		<dc:creator>How should journalism schools adapt? &#171; News Atoms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2.0: How to Survive and Thrive,” by Mark Briggs, available in book form or free online. * Reporter&#8217;s Guide to Multimedia Proficiency, by Mindy McAdams * Testable, Measurable Skills We Should Teach in J-School by Mindy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 2.0: How to Survive and Thrive,” by Mark Briggs, available in book form or free online. * Reporter&#8217;s Guide to Multimedia Proficiency, by Mindy McAdams * Testable, Measurable Skills We Should Teach in J-School by Mindy [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Teaching Online Journalism &#187; RGMP 11: Tell a good story with images and sound</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2009/feedback-sought-on-rgmp/comment-page-1/#comment-14571</link>
		<dc:creator>Teaching Online Journalism &#187; RGMP 11: Tell a good story with images and sound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fadely of the Miami Herald was dead right in his earlier comment when he said: The goal should be to learn to tell stories visually, with audio that complements the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Fadely of the Miami Herald was dead right in his earlier comment when he said: The goal should be to learn to tell stories visually, with audio that complements the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Obvious</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2009/feedback-sought-on-rgmp/comment-page-1/#comment-14551</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain Obvious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either you or someone on the audio reporting page recommended
NPR 
Sound Reporting 
The NPR Guide To Audio Journalism And Production
( Jonathan Kern )
ISB# 978-0-226-43178-9

( sorry for not digging your page up &amp; identifying which, but I&#039;m reading the book, and it&#039;s awesome, though &quot;heavy&quot; )

That, combined with &quot;Shut Up &amp; Shoot&quot; ( Antony Q Artis ), give SO much leverage to anyone wanting to get the sense of good, low-$, effective work...

Thank you VERY much.

BTW, for anyone wanting to do video work, who isn&#039;t in Mac, try Adobe Premiere Elements 7: it isn&#039;t crippled to 4 clips/tracks, as almost all other affordable MS-Windows apps are, instead allowing 99 clips/tracks, so *editing together a piece* becomes possible.

It does AVCHD, though one may be better off using &quot;Neo Scene&quot;
http://www.cineform.com/products/NeoScene.htm
to convert from AVCHD, so one doesn&#039;t have to upgrade the CPU/mobo/RAM/etc

I agree with so many who&#039;ve commented here &amp; elsewhere: learning by DOING, the same as the way children do, and one grows one&#039;s own way, and *understanding*.

A basic set of tools, and *doing* stuff with &#039;em, .. who was the woman who said her videojournalism developed because she was forced to edit her own material?

Yeah, exactly.

Storyboarding, too, is underrated.

It forces one to work out the overall story, and that matters very much.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either you or someone on the audio reporting page recommended<br />
NPR<br />
Sound Reporting<br />
The NPR Guide To Audio Journalism And Production<br />
( Jonathan Kern )<br />
ISB# 978-0-226-43178-9</p>
<p>( sorry for not digging your page up &amp; identifying which, but I&#8217;m reading the book, and it&#8217;s awesome, though &#8220;heavy&#8221; )</p>
<p>That, combined with &#8220;Shut Up &amp; Shoot&#8221; ( Antony Q Artis ), give SO much leverage to anyone wanting to get the sense of good, low-$, effective work&#8230;</p>
<p>Thank you VERY much.</p>
<p>BTW, for anyone wanting to do video work, who isn&#8217;t in Mac, try Adobe Premiere Elements 7: it isn&#8217;t crippled to 4 clips/tracks, as almost all other affordable MS-Windows apps are, instead allowing 99 clips/tracks, so *editing together a piece* becomes possible.</p>
<p>It does AVCHD, though one may be better off using &#8220;Neo Scene&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.cineform.com/products/NeoScene.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.cineform.com/products/NeoScene.htm</a><br />
to convert from AVCHD, so one doesn&#8217;t have to upgrade the CPU/mobo/RAM/etc</p>
<p>I agree with so many who&#8217;ve commented here &amp; elsewhere: learning by DOING, the same as the way children do, and one grows one&#8217;s own way, and *understanding*.</p>
<p>A basic set of tools, and *doing* stuff with &#8216;em, .. who was the woman who said her videojournalism developed because she was forced to edit her own material?</p>
<p>Yeah, exactly.</p>
<p>Storyboarding, too, is underrated.</p>
<p>It forces one to work out the overall story, and that matters very much.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Mindy McAdams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mindy McAdams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chuck Fadely - I agree with you 100 percent that it&#039;s much more important to learn storytelling skills than to learn how to use software. However, without in fact &lt;em&gt;making&lt;/em&gt; the visual stories (using some type of software to do so), the student has nothing but theory. In the workplace, they find they have no clue how to put that theory to work. So journalists have got to learn to use some kind of tools for producing visual and audio stories if they are to practice.

The storytelling is actually the subject of my next RGMP (No. 11), if I ever find time to write it! I think Soundslides specifically is the best tool to use to learn how to tell documentary stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chuck Fadely &#8211; I agree with you 100 percent that it&#8217;s much more important to learn storytelling skills than to learn how to use software. However, without in fact <em>making</em> the visual stories (using some type of software to do so), the student has nothing but theory. In the workplace, they find they have no clue how to put that theory to work. So journalists have got to learn to use some kind of tools for producing visual and audio stories if they are to practice.</p>
<p>The storytelling is actually the subject of my next RGMP (No. 11), if I ever find time to write it! I think Soundslides specifically is the best tool to use to learn how to tell documentary stories.</p>
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		<title>By: AgWired &#187; Blog Archives &#187; Reporter’s Guide to Multimedia Proficiency</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2009/feedback-sought-on-rgmp/comment-page-1/#comment-14501</link>
		<dc:creator>AgWired &#187; Blog Archives &#187; Reporter’s Guide to Multimedia Proficiency</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mindy McAdams is teaching online journalism at the University of Florida and I&#8217;ve pointed you to her website before. She&#8217;s been writing a series of articles on new media reporting which I thought would be helpful for you budding agribloggers and farm podcasters. She&#8217;s looking for some feedback about what she&#8217;s written so far since she&#8217;s got several more articles planned. Here&#8217;s a list of the topics she&#8217;s covered so far. You can find links to all of them on her blog. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mindy McAdams is teaching online journalism at the University of Florida and I&#8217;ve pointed you to her website before. She&#8217;s been writing a series of articles on new media reporting which I thought would be helpful for you budding agribloggers and farm podcasters. She&#8217;s looking for some feedback about what she&#8217;s written so far since she&#8217;s got several more articles planned. Here&#8217;s a list of the topics she&#8217;s covered so far. You can find links to all of them on her blog. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Fadely</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Fadely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that including software-specific items on your list (#10 in particular) is probably the wrong approach.

I think your list should focus more on skill-sets than on particular software.

Until the training budget (&amp; the reporters) were cut, we were getting reporters coming back from seminars all fired up about doing soundslides, and their results were all terrible, because none of the classes dealt with visual story-telling.

Learning to operate one of the most idiot-friendly pieces of software in the multimedia world is not hard.  

The goal should be to learn to tell stories visually, with audio that complements the images, edited with a pace and rhythm appropriate for the piece.  Dumping a folder of pictures over top of some bad audio does no one any good.

The visual skillset needed to layer images and audio to produce powerful stories applies to both video and slide shows and doesn&#039;t depend on any single piece of software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that including software-specific items on your list (#10 in particular) is probably the wrong approach.</p>
<p>I think your list should focus more on skill-sets than on particular software.</p>
<p>Until the training budget (&amp; the reporters) were cut, we were getting reporters coming back from seminars all fired up about doing soundslides, and their results were all terrible, because none of the classes dealt with visual story-telling.</p>
<p>Learning to operate one of the most idiot-friendly pieces of software in the multimedia world is not hard.  </p>
<p>The goal should be to learn to tell stories visually, with audio that complements the images, edited with a pace and rhythm appropriate for the piece.  Dumping a folder of pictures over top of some bad audio does no one any good.</p>
<p>The visual skillset needed to layer images and audio to produce powerful stories applies to both video and slide shows and doesn&#8217;t depend on any single piece of software.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My two cents:

http://kellytalks.blogspot.com/2009/03/becoming-well-oiled-machine.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My two cents:</p>
<p><a href="http://kellytalks.blogspot.com/2009/03/becoming-well-oiled-machine.html" rel="nofollow">http://kellytalks.blogspot.com/2009/03/becoming-well-oiled-machine.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: roberta</title>
		<link>http://mindymcadams.com/tojou/2009/feedback-sought-on-rgmp/comment-page-1/#comment-14457</link>
		<dc:creator>roberta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 08:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mindy, I enjoyed your blog more than one year ago and thanks to your posts, among other things, I knew Soundslide (and Audacity too). I&#039;m  an italian free lance journalist (so, sorry for my bad english!) and sometime I used Soundslide to tell a story or to make a reportage (oh, I really would like to show you someone of my works and ask your opinion, but they are in italian; anyway here a simple slideshow just to tell a trip between rome and barcelon http://www.cossolou.net/download/roberta/Roma_Barcellona_2009/
here, about a old lady who lives in a hospice
http://www.cossolou.net/download/roberta/Mariuccia/
here, a reportage about a petrolchemical factory http://robertapietrasanta.blogspot.com/2008/12/4-dicembre-2008-eni-chiude-il.html)
Now I would add some video between photos. Do you have some special advise for that?
Thank you for your effort and your clearness!
Roberta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mindy, I enjoyed your blog more than one year ago and thanks to your posts, among other things, I knew Soundslide (and Audacity too). I&#8217;m  an italian free lance journalist (so, sorry for my bad english!) and sometime I used Soundslide to tell a story or to make a reportage (oh, I really would like to show you someone of my works and ask your opinion, but they are in italian; anyway here a simple slideshow just to tell a trip between rome and barcelon <a href="http://www.cossolou.net/download/roberta/Roma_Barcellona_2009/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cossolou.net/download/roberta/Roma_Barcellona_2009/</a><br />
here, about a old lady who lives in a hospice<br />
<a href="http://www.cossolou.net/download/roberta/Mariuccia/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cossolou.net/download/roberta/Mariuccia/</a><br />
here, a reportage about a petrolchemical factory <a href="http://robertapietrasanta.blogspot.com/2008/12/4-dicembre-2008-eni-chiude-il.html)" rel="nofollow">http://robertapietrasanta.blogspot.com/2008/12/4-dicembre-2008-eni-chiude-il.html)</a><br />
Now I would add some video between photos. Do you have some special advise for that?<br />
Thank you for your effort and your clearness!<br />
Roberta</p>
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